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<!--Generated by Squarespace Site Server v5.8.0 (http://www.squarespace.com/) on Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:38:11 GMT--><rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" xmlns:rss="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:admin="http://webns.net/mvcb/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:cc="http://web.resource.org/cc/"><rss:channel rdf:about="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/"><rss:title>Tim Ten Clay</rss:title><rss:link>http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/</rss:link><rss:description></rss:description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><dc:date>2009-11-07T20:38:11Z</dc:date><admin:generatorAgent rdf:resource="http://www.squarespace.com/">Squarespace Site Server v5.8.0 (http://www.squarespace.com/)</admin:generatorAgent><rss:items><rdf:Seq><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/9/21/dan-browns-impending-novel-about-the-rca.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/8/7/wealth-or-debt-are-not-qualifications-for-ministry.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/6/11/out-of-context-for-good-and-for-bad.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/6/1/no-you-dont-get-your-way-this-time.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/5/29/heres-an-idea-inspired-by-the-commissioned-pastor-concept.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/5/26/knitters-crocheters-and-other-fiber-enthusiasts.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/5/14/adiaphora-yes-or-no.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/4/28/forum-on-women-in-ministry-at-wts-part-ii.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/4/28/forum-on-women-in-ministry-at-wts.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/4/20/de-baptisms.html"/></rdf:Seq></rss:items></rss:channel><rss:item rdf:about="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/9/21/dan-browns-impending-novel-about-the-rca.html"><rss:title>Dan Brown's Impending Novel about the RCA</rss:title><rss:link>http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/9/21/dan-browns-impending-novel-about-the-rca.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Tim TenClay</dc:creator><dc:date>2009-09-21T16:36:40Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- 		@page { margin: 0.79in } 		P { margin-bottom: 0.08in } 		A:link { so-language: zxx } -->
<p>Ok... clearly this is fiction.. clearly this is entirely off topic... I suppose someone will even manage to find it offensive, but at least it's a post on these boards that isn't about homosexuality.Oh yea, and for the record, none of the characters are intended to represent real-life individuals!</p>
<p>I just finished Dan Brown's latest novel, it isn't my favorite.&nbsp; On the other hand, one of the forums I follow somewhere else is discussing it and someone posted Slate.com's "<a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2228327">Interactive Dan Brown Plot Generator</a>."&nbsp; Fun.&nbsp; Why not?&nbsp; I figured... a little bit of searching and replacing and maybe even Dan Brown could include the RCA in his next tome....</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">A long-forgotten code secretly protected in the depths of Grand Rapids' and New York's most famous churches.<br />A nefarious cult determined to protect it.<br />A frantic race to uncover the RCA's darkest secret.</p>
<h2 style="text-align: center;"><em>The Serpentine Crypt</em></h2>
<p>When renowned Harvard symbologist Robert Langdon is summoned to the RCA offices to analyze a mysterious rune&mdash;imprinted on a gold ring lying next to the disemboweled corpse of an unidentified staff member&mdash;he discovers evidence of the unthinkable: the resurgence of the ancient cult of the <em>Diablofori</em>, a secret branch of the Reformed Church that has surfaced from the shadows to carry out its legendary vendetta against its mortal enemy, the Vatican.<br /><br />Langdon's worst fears are confirmed when a messenger from the Diablofori appears at the Canadian Supreme Court to deliver a macabre ultimatum: Deposit $1 billion in the Reformed Church's off-shore bank accounts or the exclusive clothier of the Swiss Guards will be bankrupted. As the city braces for disaster, Langdon joins forces with the posteriorally-gifted and charming daughter of the murdered staff member in a desperate bid to crack the code that will reveal the cult's secret plan.<br /><br />Embarking on a frantic hunt, Langdon and his companion follow a 200-year-old trail through Grand Rapid's and New York's most sacred churches and venerable monuments, pursued by a mustachioed assassin the cult has sent to thwart them. What they discover threatens to expose a conspiracy that goes all the way back to John Calvin and the very founding of the Reformed Church.</p>
<p><br /><br /></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/8/7/wealth-or-debt-are-not-qualifications-for-ministry.html"><rss:title>Wealth or Debt are Not Qualifications for Ministry</rss:title><rss:link>http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/8/7/wealth-or-debt-are-not-qualifications-for-ministry.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Tim TenClay</dc:creator><dc:date>2009-08-07T14:11:05Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't know what the future of the Church Herald Blogs are, but I thought we needed something new to chat about.&nbsp; I'm cross posting this with my <a href="http://www.tenclay.org/blog" target="new">personal blog</a> which, I'm sure, none of you read :-)</p>
<p>One of the best things about the Reformed tradition, in my opinion, is the fact that, throughout the ages, it has placed a heavy emphasis on educated pastors. This emphasis has become less and less important over the past several decades, yet the normative preparation for a minister in the Reformed Church in America still requires a bachelor&rsquo;s degree and a master&rsquo;s degree, and this - to at least a certain degree - helps prevent (at least to <em>some</em> degree) churches from putting idiots in the pulpit. It also has allowed ministers to sit at the table with other professionals, like social workers, psychologists, lawyers, doctors, etc.</p>
<p>This professional collegiality becomes less of a reality as the qualifications for being a minister diminish (for example, up to 10% of a seminary&rsquo;s students in a master&rsquo;s program aren&rsquo;t required to have a bachelor&rsquo;s degree &mdash; we don&rsquo;t want doctors who didn&rsquo;t bother with college, but apparently it&rsquo;s ok to have ministers who aren&rsquo;t willing to take the time....) [For the record, I understand that this is meant as an "exception" but I've yet to see it invoked with someone who <em>couldn't</em> get a bachelor's degree.]</p>
<p>Having said all of that, I also understand the key problem with our system. To even candidate for a position as pastor, one needs to have completed (or be very close to) a master&rsquo;s degree. That means that for the privilege of even applying to be a pastor (one of the lowest paying &ldquo;professional&rdquo; positions in the country), one needs to have figured out how to pay for at least seven years of education following high school. In short, to be a pastor in the RCA you either need to be independently wealthy (you can pay for it with family money), really lucky (someone, for some reason, decides to pay for it), or enter into your gloriously-low-paying job with debt dripping from your ears.</p>
<p>In my case, it&rsquo;s student loans. I don&rsquo;t come from money and no one graciously offered to pay for my seminary education. Add my student loans and my wife&rsquo;s and we pay a mortgage-worth of school debt every month... this, merely to reach the most basic qualifications for our jobs.</p>
<p>This is a problem.</p>
<p>Wealth (or debt) should not be qualifications for ministry. On the other hand, neither do I believe lowering our expectations is a good option (although I&rsquo;d argue it&rsquo;s the one we&rsquo;ve flirted most intently with in the RCA).</p>
<p>Yet, let&rsquo;s be honest, we are never going back to the days where seminary tuition is denominationally covered (as it was when my grandfather went through).</p>
<p>What are we to do?</p>
<p>Let me offer two ideas:</p>
<ul>
<li>The "Pay if you Quit" Approach</li>
<li>The "University of the People" Approach</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>The &ldquo;Pay if you Quit&rdquo; Approach</strong><br />I actually think this is immediately do-able. Essentially, you put an individual&rsquo;s seminary tuition costs into a 10-year loan (or 15). If they stay <em>in a local church</em> for that period of time, their seminary tuition costs are forgiven; if not, the costs are pro-rated and payed back at a normative student-loan interest.</p>
<p>For example. Let&rsquo;s take the 10-year plan. If it costs $20,000 worth of tuition per student (some are more, others less), that&rsquo;s $2,000 a year. If you minister in a local church for 10 years, you don&rsquo;t pay any of it back. If you only stay in church-based-ministry 5 years, you pay back $10,000 (with interest set at normative student-loan rates). If you never work in the church, the entire $20,000 becomes a student loan - no big deal.</p>
<p>Why working in a local church? Because I believe it&rsquo;s ministers preparing for <em>local church ministry</em> that seminaries ought to be focusing on not pre-PhD students or people preparing for denominational positions.</p>
<p><strong>The &ldquo;University of the People&rdquo; Approach</strong><br />I actually <em>love</em> this idea! The <a href="http://www.uopeople.com/" target="blank">University of the People</a> is a <em>free</em> university (albeit, yet unaccredited). Cool huh?! <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/26/education/26university.html" target="blank">Read about it in the NY Times</a>. I&rsquo;m not sure how well it&rsquo;d work for a general university degree; after all, tuition and salaries are part of how we pay for professors&rsquo; education, etc. However, I <em>am</em> convinced this would work for a seminary. It would only require two things: (1) scholarly-proven pastors to teach a course once in a while, and (2) theological professionals to do a <em>tiny</em> bit of pro-bono work once in a while.</p>
<p>There are hundreds of doctorally-educated pastors serving in local churches. Many of whom would both love to teach an occasional course and be highly qualified to do so. Add to that, theological professionals (of which there are many!) who could do a bit of pro bono work here and there. I&rsquo;m not talking about a class a semester, I&rsquo;m talking maybe 1 course a decade... really.. that&rsquo;s all. Lawyers do pro-bono work... doctors do pro bono work. If pastors and theologians are professionals, a bit here and there wouldn&rsquo;t hurt us either.</p>
<p>Make it a distance-learning system (like <a href="http://www.westernsem.edu/explore/programs/dl" target="blank">Western Seminary&rsquo;s DL Program</a>); use Open Source software; demand excellence from high-quality students, professors, and education (making no exception on any of them).</p>
<p>In the long run I don&rsquo;t believe it does us well to lower the expectations of those we put in the pulpit - and no, as important as &ldquo;life-experience&rdquo; is (and as much as many seminary students need more of it), I do not believe it is an adequate substitute for education. And yet, there is a problem with the way we pay for theological education. Wealth or debt ought not to be basic qualifications for ministry....</p>
<p>Grace and Peace,<br />`tim</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/6/11/out-of-context-for-good-and-for-bad.html"><rss:title>Out of Context – for Good and for Bad</rss:title><rss:link>http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/6/11/out-of-context-for-good-and-for-bad.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Tim TenClay</dc:creator><dc:date>2009-06-11T22:32:04Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">As I began thinking about what I would do if given the opportunity to vote on the Belhar, I spent a lot of time thinking about what a &ldquo;confession&rdquo; is. Of course, there are a lot of ways to define a confession, and I wasn't a delegate at Synod, so however I would have voted is entirely irrelevant. However, the question I kept coming back to was the question of context.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">It sounds awful, but bear with me. One of the beautiful things about the scriptures is that they can be used outside of their original context. That doesn't mean that <em>all</em> out of context interpretations are appropriate, but it does suggest that <em>some </em>out of context interpretations are. I don't think that's even remotely controversial. Obviously we live in a completely different context than those the scriptures were written in. If we are to believe that they still speak to us and make God's will known to us, we have to believe that it's possible to apply them, in some way, outside of their original context.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">The standards are <em>obviously </em>not scripture; they do not hold the authority of scripture; they are not inspired in the same way as the scriptures. That said, one of the beauties of the standards is that they too, in some ways, can be interpreted and applied outside of their original context. Ministers in the RCA affirm that they are &ldquo;historic&rdquo; and &ldquo;faithful&rdquo; expressions of God's will. &ldquo;Historic&rdquo; means that they have an original context different from our own; &ldquo;faithful&rdquo; suggests that they, <em>to some degree</em> can be interpreted outside of that original context.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">As I've thought about the Belhar, then, I've found myself wondering which of two, very different, categories it fits in: (1) is it a powerful document bound to it's original time and context (and thus not suitable as a confession), or (2) is it a powerful document able to speak <em>in some way</em> outside it's original time and context (and thus appropriate for adoption as a confession).</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">In the end, I believe it's the latter. Which means, of course, that I believe the Synod made a wise and discerning decision in approving it, and celebrate that the years of study have led us to this place.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Certainly some applications outside of South African apartheid are appropriate, certainly others aren't. The flurry of activity on the Church Herald Blogs, over the past week, has seen a myriad of posts referencing the Belhar (in my opinion) under both categories. The question, then, becomes <em>how </em>it can appropriately be applied outside of its original context.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">One of the problems we have, in answering this question, is that as important as it is, we haven't done a very good job at answering it with our other three standards. Nor, even, have we done an acceptable job answering it in the case of the scriptures. Again, it's worth noting that the scriptures and the standards are <em>unquestionably</em> on different levels &ndash; yet the question is similarly important.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">I can't provide a full hermeneutic on the standards, but let me at least suggest the following:</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(1) In order to understand how the standards (and therefore, the Belhar) can be applied outside of their original context, we need to know as much about their original context as possible and what the differences are between their original context and a contemporary one.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(2) The first step in interpreting the standards, is to figure out what they meant to their original audience in their original context.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(3) The second step in interpreting the standards, is to ensure that the &ldquo;contemporary&rdquo; (i.e. out of context) interpretation is consistent with the scriptures. (As a standard, I already believe the original interpretation <em>is </em>consistent with the scriptures).</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">(4) The third step in interpreting the standards, is to ensure that the contemporary interpretation is consistent with original interpretation (i.e. it's inappropriate to try to get the standards to say something inconsistent with what they were intended to say, even though it <em>is </em>appropriate to carefully apply them to different contexts than originally intended.)</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">OK, it isn't a fully functional hermeneutic... but maybe it's a start.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Thoughts?</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Grace and Peace,</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">&nbsp; `tim</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/6/1/no-you-dont-get-your-way-this-time.html"><rss:title>No, you don't get your way this time...</rss:title><rss:link>http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/6/1/no-you-dont-get-your-way-this-time.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Tim TenClay</dc:creator><dc:date>2009-06-01T12:47:27Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Cross posted by permission from my personal blog at <a href="http://www.tenclay.org/blog" target="blank">Credo &harr; Oratio</a>.)</p>
<p>Every year, as Synod approaches, I talk to the congregation I pastor about what's on the docket and what kinds of things the delegates are going to be talking about, celebrating, learning, etc. Some congregations roll their eyes at the idea of General Synod, but over the past nine years, I think Dunningville has come to understand that Synod plays an important role in the local church as well as the denomination. <br /><br />Yesterday, shortly before our morning service when I gathered with our Elders to pray, we were talking about Synod and how it can be both extremely fun and extremely frustrating. It's true. If you've never been to a Synod, there are few gatherings of the church that are more fun. Hundreds of people from across the US (and a handful of overseas missionaries flown in to spice things up) are gathered in a single place to pray, worship, deliberate, etc. Good conversations happen over coffee times, meal-times, and - in some cases - late into the night. Good discernment and work is done during advisory committee meetings, plenary sessions and other formal gatherings. All of this can be exceedingly fun.. yes... fun. <br /><br />Synod, however, can also be frustrating - intensely frustrating! Sometimes it boggles my mind to watch people talk past each other and to see people stand up to speak on things that really have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Sometimes people are so busy crafting their arguments that they don't even notice that the conversation has moved on, or even more humorously, that someone has already made their point (sometimes even more effectively than they did). The other frustrating thing about Synod is that although you are almost always guaranteed to go home after it's all done and be very happy with some of the decisions, you are also - regardless of your theological, doctrinal or social positions - often equally as unhappy with others. <br /><br />That's where the conversation before church yesterday really caught my attention. Just before we bowed our heads, one of our elders turned to me and said something to the effect of: Synod is good because it reminds people that they don't always get their way.<br /><br />Bingo!<br /><br />Of all the wonderful things that happen at Synod, perhaps the most important is that people are given a bigger view of the church - that they're invited (forced?) to recognize that their preferences, their way of doing things, their experience of the faith, and their likes and dislikes aren't what it's all about. Synod reminds people that we're about something bigger than merely remaking the Church (denominational and even universal) in our own image. <br /><br />Just one more reason that, in the nine years I've been at Dunningville, I can honestly say every Consistory I've worked with has been a blessing. I hope others of you are as fortunate!<br /><br />Grace and peace,<br />`tim</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/5/29/heres-an-idea-inspired-by-the-commissioned-pastor-concept.html"><rss:title>Here's an idea (inspired by the Commissioned Pastor concept)</rss:title><rss:link>http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/5/29/heres-an-idea-inspired-by-the-commissioned-pastor-concept.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Tim TenClay</dc:creator><dc:date>2009-05-29T11:56:14Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've essentially lost the argument in&nbsp;Zeeland Classis, I think.&nbsp; By the end of the year, if not the end of June, it is possible that Zeeland Classis will have taken upon itself the privilege of ordaining Elders for the position of Commissioned Pastor.&nbsp; My concern, as I've already noted quite publicly, is that it sidesteps our whole polity - Congregations elect (call) and ordain elders through a specific process, not Classes.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Having said that, if the RCA is going to ignore the means by which we traditionally have called, prepared and supervised people for the office of Elder, why not Deacon, Minister and Professor of theology?</p>
<p>How about we create Deacons for our Small groups or our Classes?&nbsp; The office of Deacon is a good office, why should only congregations get to elect (call) and ordain them?</p>
<p>Can we create a regional minister office?&nbsp; In other words, set up a program (outside of the normal ordination track) by which the Regional Synod ordains people the office of Minister of Word and Sacrament?&nbsp; Or maybe we could go the CRC route and make ministers denominationally?&nbsp; This way the Regional Synod or Denomination could "step in" where local Classes might have not be willing to ordain someone and make sure they nonetheless get ordained.... After all, if they seem fit why not?&nbsp; Quite frankly, there are some Classes I don't agree with, why should the people who live there "bounds" be punished by their local standards and the experiences of those who know them best?</p>
<p>Perhaps it could go the other way too... Classes could make people Professors of Theology... or Regional Synods maybe?&nbsp; I realize this is a little more awkward, but if a Classis made a Professor of Theology, that person wouldn't have to be accountable to the Synod.&nbsp; S/he could simply choose a Classis they agree with and not worry about the larger church...</p>
<p>Ok, perhaps all of that is a bit "tongue in cheek" (or maybe even a smidge sarcastic), but seriously... I believe there is a certain wisdom in the traditional separation of powers and that side-stepping them is problematic (although certainly convenient in some situations).&nbsp; In the end, though I don't ever buy "the ends justify the means" argument.</p>
<p>How about you?</p>
<p>Grace and Peace,</p>
<p>&nbsp; `tim</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/5/26/knitters-crocheters-and-other-fiber-enthusiasts.html"><rss:title>Knitters, Crocheters and other Fiber Enthusiasts</rss:title><rss:link>http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/5/26/knitters-crocheters-and-other-fiber-enthusiasts.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Tim TenClay</dc:creator><dc:date>2009-05-26T00:45:43Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you attending Synod this year?</p>
<p>Do you like to Knit, Crochet, or otherwise fiddle with fiber?</p>
<p>Here is (to reference Justin M.'s suggestion) an excellent opportunity to "play" with one another.&nbsp; On Sunday afternoon (during one of the empty times of the Synod Schedule), I'm planning an open house/get-to-gether for anyone interested in meeting at one of our local yarn shops.</p>
<p>It's within walking distance of campus; snacks will be provided, and it's free!</p>
<p>Information at: <a href="http://tenclay.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/synod-fiber-fans.pdf" target="new">http://tenclay.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/synod-fiber-fans.pdf</a></p>
<p>Entirely non-theological, non-doctrinal, non-biblical, and pretty much non-everything-this-blog-is-about, but I hope to see some of you there.</p>
<p>Contact me if you have any questions (phone and e-mail both on the above .pdf); otherwise, you can always find me at the Seminarian Seminar Tables once Synod begins.</p>
<p><br />Grace and Peace,</p>
<p>&nbsp; `tim</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/5/14/adiaphora-yes-or-no.html"><rss:title>Adiaphora... yes or no?</rss:title><rss:link>http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/5/14/adiaphora-yes-or-no.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Tim TenClay</dc:creator><dc:date>2009-05-14T13:33:37Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been a handful of discussions on the Church Herald Blogs lately that have raised a basic question for me: Is there such a thing in the RCA as adiaphora?</p>
<p>From <a title="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adiaphora" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adiaphora" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Adiaphoron</strong> (plural: <strong>adiaphora</strong> from the <a title="Greek language" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language">Greek</a>ἀ&delta;&iota;ά&phi;&omicron;&rho;&alpha; "indifferent things")...in Christianity refer to matters not regarded as essential to faith but nevertheless as permissible for Christians or allowed in church. What is specifically considered adiaphora depends on the specific theology in view.</p>
<p>I guess, more directly, the question I'm asking is <em><strong>how do we define what is adiaphora and what isn't?</strong></em>&nbsp; Obviously we hold that <em>some</em>things are adiaphora (not everything we believe is on the same "level" of importance).&nbsp; But how do we determine it?</p>
<p>As we have seen, some people consider a particular position on women in ministry fundamental... others not.&nbsp; Some consider a particular position on homosexuality fundamental... others not.&nbsp; There is at least one denomination that uses formal church discipline against ministers who don't preach that creation happened in seven, 24-hour days... obviously not true for the RCA.&nbsp;</p>
<p>It's an important question, I think.&nbsp; If we don't have a clear understanding of what is fundamentally necessary and what isn't, we end up spending a lot of time arguing about things that really don't matter.&nbsp; On the other hand, some things are worth dying for.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Please don't give me your list of fundamentals or adiaphora, and please don't just say "I believe in the Bible" -- I don't mean to sound rude but neither one is helpful to the discussion.&nbsp; Instead, <em>how</em> do you make that distinction?&nbsp; <em>Who </em>do you turn to for help making such decisions?&nbsp; Are there different lists of "unbendables" for ministers? Elders? Deacons? Members? Adherents?</p>
<p>etc. etc....</p>
<p>Grace and Peace,</p>
<p>&nbsp; `tim</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/4/28/forum-on-women-in-ministry-at-wts-part-ii.html"><rss:title>Forum on Women in Ministry at WTS (Part II)</rss:title><rss:link>http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/4/28/forum-on-women-in-ministry-at-wts-part-ii.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Tim TenClay</dc:creator><dc:date>2009-04-28T22:06:58Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">This is the second installment of my notes on an &ldquo;RCA Advocacy Forum on Women in Leadership&rdquo; that took place today at Western Seminary. (Here&rsquo;s the <a href="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/4/28/forum-on-women-in-ministry-at-wts.html">first installment</a>).</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><em>I offer the following notes with a loud and clear caveat: Jim is brilliant; I am not a particularly good note-taker. Although I'm reasonably confident in my ability to represent a typical lecture's content, Jim's presentation was more complex. The good news? He is putting together web and video resources with much of the same information and hopes to have it available by the end of the summer!</em></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in" align="center"><em><strong>Morning Session #2: </strong></em></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in" align="center"><em><strong>Rev. Dr. Jim Brownson: Biblical Overview</strong></em></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">First, a truism: We do not come to scripture as blank slates. We have (to use my own word) &ldquo;baggage&rdquo; - experiences, preferences, etc. that help and hinder our interpretation of the scriptures.</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">Importantly, as Reformed Christians, the question we need to ask is not <em>whether</em> to be biblical but <em>how</em> to be biblical. There are three keys to keep in mind</p>
<ol>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">We look at the totality of scripture, not just proof texts (and use easier passages to help us interpret the more difficult ones).</p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">We make a distinction between fundamental gospel truth and cultural issues. (Obviously! There are a lot of cultural things that we automatically deal with when we interpret the scriptures. Unfortunately not everything is quite as easy to deal with as exchanging handshakes for holy kisses!)</p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">The Bible is authoritative to us because it has led us to Christ and continues to inform us about what life in Christ is supposed to look like (not because we have determined that it should be authoritative or someone else has told us it is).</p>
</li>
</ol>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in" align="left"><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>General observations (things pretty much everyone can agree with):</strong></span></em></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">Despite the fact that the Old Testament was an exceedingly patriarchal culture, there are obvious (and dramatic) examples of women in leadership (both political <em>and</em> spiritual). The important thing to note here isn't that there are few examples but rather that, considering how patriarchal the culture was, there are <em>any</em> at all!</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">Jesus was clearly uninterested in worrying about gender taboos.</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">Women exercised remarkable leadership in the early church. (There is no question whatsoever about the fact that women hosted house churches, were prophetesses, spoke in tongues at Pentecost, and learned from Christ alongside the disciples.)</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">Paul uses the term &ldquo;Co-workers&rdquo; to refer to key leaders in the early church, some of whom were women.</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">The word &delta;&iota;&alpha;&kappa;&omicron;&nu;&omicron;&sigmaf; (I think that's how it's spelled, my Greek is rusty) appears 18 times in Paul's writings. The NRSV translates it as &ldquo;deacon&rdquo; (3x), &ldquo;servant&rdquo; (10x), and &ldquo;minister&rdquo; (5x). It's a difficult term to translate, but unquestionably included women. There is no &ldquo;female&rdquo; version of the term; the same form is used when referring to either men or women.</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">This may seem obvious, but we often ignore it: When interpreting the New Testament, we <em>must</em> seriously deal with both what the text <em>says</em> and what the early church <em>did</em>.</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">The above is basic. There really isn't much to argue with &ndash; as fare as pretty much everyone would agree, it's essentially facts. Beyond that, we deal with interpretations.</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">I can't give you a full run-down of the presentation; you'll have to wait for the DVD for that, however, there are a few things from the presentation that I found particularly worthy of noting here:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">That humanity is created both male and female is biblically connected with the teaching that humanity is created in the image of God. In other words, both men and women are bearers of the divine image.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">&ldquo;Helper&rdquo; (think Eve) is not a subordinate term. (This is actually a fact, not an interpretation. We can't make the term a subordinating one when it is used throughout the Old Testament to refer to God!)</p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">Pentecost is, fundamentally, the visible breaking down of sinful human distinctions. It is the dramatic obliteration of inequality (male/female, young/old, free/slave, rich/poor, etc.) and return to the original reality that <em>all</em> are bearers of the divine image and <em>all</em> are brought into God's/Christ's ministry by baptism by the Holy Spirit.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">We <em>cannot</em> understand the gospel or the early church without the obliteration of these categories.</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">There was <em>so </em>much more to Jim's presentation. But I can't present it well enough to do it justice. Like I said earlier &ndash; look forward to the DVD!</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">Grace and peace,</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal" align="left">`tim</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/4/28/forum-on-women-in-ministry-at-wts.html"><rss:title>Forum on Women in Ministry at WTS</rss:title><rss:link>http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/4/28/forum-on-women-in-ministry-at-wts.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Tim TenClay</dc:creator><dc:date>2009-04-28T21:29:55Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">Today I attended an &ldquo;RCA Advocacy Forum on Women in Leadership&rdquo; and so thought I'd drop a few notes about it &ndash; it was an excellent day and while there was a good turn out, I wish more people could have been there.</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">They are intending to make a DVD out of it and I encourage everyone to pick up a copy, especially of the two morning sessions.</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><em>For the record, the following post is from my own notes and observations, not everyone would agree nor would I argue that I am the best nor most accurate note-taker in the world! </em></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in" align="center"><em><strong>Morning Session #1: </strong></em></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in" align="center"><em><strong>Rev. Dr. Lynn Japinga on the history of women in ministry in the RCA</strong></em></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">I started off the session a bit nervous. Within the first few moments into the first presentation of the day, I thought I noticed a disturbing trend of judgmental laughter from segments of the audience. Surely you know the kind of laughter I'm talking about. It isn't laughter merely because something is funny (although the presentation <em>did </em><span style="FONT-STYLE: normal">include some humor), </span>quite the opposite; it's laughter that quietly, but clearly, suggests anyone who who would would disagree or argue oppositely must be an ignorant buffoon. I don't have a lot of patience for that kind of thing &ndash; especially in settings that should be focusing on reconciliation and forward movement, and especially on topics that are biblically and hermeneutically difficult. Mockery isn't ever a good way to get someone on your side.</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">Having said that, <em><strong>I did not think the general tone of the day continued along those lines </strong></em><span style="FONT-STYLE: normal">(nor am I suggesting that it was a result of any action/etc. on Lynn's part). As a whole, </span><em><strong>it was a healthy day of conversation, theology, stories, observations, and hopes.</strong></em></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><span style="FONT-STYLE: normal">Anyhow, back to her presentation; it revolved around three questions:</span></p>
<ul>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><span style="FONT-STYLE: normal">Why is there so much resistance to women in church leadership?</span></p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><span style="FONT-STYLE: normal">How does change occur?</span></p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><span style="FONT-STYLE: normal">How do we implement that change?</span></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Why is there so much resistance?</strong></span></em></p>
<ol>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">Biblical hermeneutic: we, in the RCA, do not have a universal biblical hermeneutic. This, among other things, leads to divergent interpretations of the Bible's message on the topic (and others!)</p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">BCO Requirements: there are polity issues surrounding the ordination of women including, but not limited to, the church's interpretation of whether or not the archaic use of the word &ldquo;men&rdquo; is a comment on gender-qualifications and whether or not the potentially-accidental use of the word &ldquo;persons&rdquo; includes women.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">The question of whether or not it's &ldquo;good&rdquo; for the church: this revolves around the question of whether or not the church is &ldquo;ready&rdquo; for women in ministry or if it's &ldquo;the right time.&rdquo;</p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">The question of whether or not women are &ldquo;fit&rdquo; for ministry: in other words, is ministry an &ldquo;appropriate&rdquo; thing for women to engage in or is it only appropriate for men. (i.e. are only men &ldquo;made for&rdquo; ministry, whereas women, then, would presumably be &ldquo;made for&rdquo; dishes and pregnancy.)</p>
</li>
</ol>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">The fourth point, she wisely observed, is often a quite argument but powerfully pervasive and may truly be at the root of our historic difficulties on the matter.</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>How does change happen?</strong></span></em></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><span style="FONT-STYLE: normal">Ironically, much of the change that initially happened on this front was done by men. (Obviously! women weren't allowed voice or vote on that, or any, matter until relatively recently.)</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><span style="FONT-STYLE: normal">One key date: 1955. The General Synod formed a study committee (of 5 men) who came back with a determination that the Bible does not prevent the ordination of women nor does the argument from &ldquo;tradition&rdquo; hold water. This historic report, although </span><em>not</em><span style="FONT-STYLE: normal"> approved by the Classes, has been frequently cited.</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><span style="FONT-STYLE: normal">Another key date: 1978. Three women (Valerie DeMarnis, Louise Ann Hill-Alto, and Klaire Miller) were ordained to the Ministry of Word and Sacrament. The ordinations were upheld by judicial action at Synod by a vote of 150 to 115. (Within a year of this decision, 275 women were elected to Consistories across the RCA &ndash; clearly it was a decision that many agreed with!)</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><span style="FONT-STYLE: normal">One interesting observation, that I'd never really thought of is that the desire to &ldquo;maintain peace&rdquo; on both sides of the issue has often been problematic here. She (later in the lecture) reminded us that &ldquo;there is no peace without justice&rdquo; (MLK?) and similarly the Rev. Dr. Renee House, later in the day, noted that it's not fair for those who are oppressed to carry the load for unity and peace on their backs. WOW! What a powerful observation. </span></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><span style="FONT-STYLE: normal">A few stats:</span></p>
<ul>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><span style="FONT-STYLE: normal">Approximately 65% of the members in the RCA are women (although 75% of Consistory members in the RCA are men).</span></p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><span style="FONT-STYLE: normal">Only approximately 5-15% of the delegates to General Synod are women.</span></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>How does change get implemented?</strong></span></em></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">There are two key concerns that have to be recognized: First, a denominational culture that says &ldquo;you can't make me do anything I don't want to do,&rdquo; and secondly, a denominational fear of splitting (which she discussed in interesting detail but I'm not capable of doing justice on).</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">Some closing questions/observations:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">Are we willing to do what's right even if it makes some people unhappy?</p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">Polity, at times, can be either a blessing or a curse (my words, not hers)</p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">Experience plays an important role in biblical interpretation &ndash; what that role is is controversial?</p>
</li>
<li>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">What is does it mean to be &ldquo;RCA?&rdquo; Who are we? What is our biblical/hermeneutical/theological/etc. identity?</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">One last note: We were given a wonderful time line of the key movements and actions on the topic. I don't feel it's my place to re-present it here, but watch for it. I'm sure it'll be printed and distributed extensively.</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">Later, a few notes on the 2<sup>nd</sup> Session, but I'm sick of typing right now...</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">Grace and peace,</p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in; FONT-STYLE: normal">`tim</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/4/20/de-baptisms.html"><rss:title>De-Baptisms?!</rss:title><rss:link>http://heraldblog.squarespace.com/tim-ten-clay/2009/4/20/de-baptisms.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Tim TenClay</dc:creator><dc:date>2009-04-20T17:59:47Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the key failures of the church, I believe, is that we have not adequately embraced the concept of baptism.&nbsp; What does it mean to be "a member of Christ's Church" and "engaged to confess the gospel?"&nbsp; I think the key is probably the word "engagement" - something very real and very important has happened but yet waits for fulfillment in another very real, but very important thing taking place.&nbsp; For many, however, baptism has become some kind of superstitious, rather old-fashioned, religious ritual that helps salve the soul and provide a bit of comfort to those who know, probably not so deep down inside, that they aren't really going to raise their children in the faith nor, frankly, do they honestly have any kind of a faith to pass on to them.</p>
<p>And yet, we honor those who were baptized as infants by weak-faithed or faithless parents believing that God is faithful, even if we (or they) are not.&nbsp; It doesn't matter that they didn't grow up in the church... it doesn't matter that they are now in their 40s and experiencing the liberal generosity of the gospel for the first time.&nbsp;&nbsp; We hold strong to the belief that God did not fail them decades earlier when they were baptized and refuse to rebaptize them (at least in theory, the commitment to refuse rebaptism is rather weak in some corners of the RCA).</p>
<p>What do we do with those who have been "De-Baptized?"&nbsp; Read about it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1891230,00.html?imw=Y?iid=perma_share" target="new">http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1891230,00.html?imw=Y?iid=perma_share</a></p>
<p>I'm only speaking in theory, I don't have a line of de-baptized individuals knocking down my door asking for re-baptisms following the experience of a post-de-baptism conversion... but I imagine such things may not be foreign to my future.</p>
<p>Interested in your thoughts....</p>
<p>Grace and Peace,</p>
<p>&nbsp; `tim</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item></rdf:RDF>